The singer-songwriter Willie Nile’s turned 75 last week (June 7). He is still recording great music (The Day the Earth Stood Still was released in 2021) and touring incessantly. I interviewed him in 2015 and am reposting it here.
On His Own Time
Originally published on my Channel Surfing blog on Blogger.
Willie Nile has been making music for more than three decades, but not continuously.
His first album – the eponymous Willie Nile – came out in 1980, followed in 1981 by Golden Down. The albums – squarely in the Bruce Springsteen/Tom Petty rock camp – were well received, but didn’t sell particularly well, though both broke the Billboard 200, according to AllMusic.com. And the critics loved him – like his friend Bruce Springsteen, he was tagged with the “New Dylan” label.
Nile then disappeared. There were some legal issues, and Nile – who is playing the Light of Day benefit shows in Asbury Park on Friday and Saturday – says he felt it was time to talk away. His wife was pregnant and it was no longer fun.
“I walked away from the business in ’81,” he told me. “I went to New York because I loved music, but when it became more about business and the business hassles around the music, I walked away. My wife was pregnant, so I went back to Buffalo.”
Nile hails from Buffalo. He spent much of the 1970s in New York City, seeing shows, writing music, and then performing. Getting signed was a big deal, of course. He toured with the Who early in his career. He won praise from the critics. Through it all, he said, he remains “just a poet from Buffalo.”
“It didn’t throw me,” he said. “I’m a poet first. I didn’t get into this to become an ‘American Idol.’ Wrote poetry first. I played guitar. At some point, I put it together.”
Nile attempted a return to music with some live shows in the middle 1980s – he missed playing music -- but didn’t record again until 1991 when he released Places I Have Never Been on Columbia. It was well received critically, but not commercially and Nile once again faded from view.
This time he continued to perform, gaining a following in Europe, and releasing a live record. All of this set the stage for his third act – a 10-year stretch in which he has released six records, two live albums and a DVD, while touring regularly with what he calls a “tight band” that allows him the freedom to do pretty much what he wants.
“These are the best days of my activity in music,” he said.
The consistent activity – especially the performing – has made him a better musician, he said.
“When you’re on stage, you have an instinct for what can work,” he said. “I’m having so much fun with it, with this incredible band. We’re playing a lot, playing so much and we’ve gotten so tight. There are certain things you can only get from playing and that naturally opens the songwriting doors.”
Most of his recent records – particularly Streets of New York (2006), which Dave Thompson of AllMusic.com called “a swaggering braggart of a disc that is to the modern Apple everything that Lou Reed’s New York was 15 years before,” and American Ride (2013), have a big sound reminiscent of the best of the Jersey Shore music scene.
I asked him about this – explaining that I’d assumed early in Nile’s career that he was from the Shore area.
“I’ve played a lot of shows in Jersey and the fans in Jersey been very supportive,” he said. “The Jersey fans love their rock ‘n’ roll and know their music. And because I’ve been involved in Light of Day, even though not from Jersey or the Jersey Shore, I am associated with it.”
His most recent release is quieter – a piano-based record If I Was a River – that he says is something he has been wanting to do for a long time.
“You have to make a change once in a while,” he said. “Now that I am making records more often, more frequently, I can do more of a variety of things for the fun of it. When you put one out every 10 years – well, I just follow my instincts and it felt like the right time.”
Nile said he is excited about the Light of Day shows. The Light of Day Foundation was founded by Bob Benjamin, who had worked in the recording industry, after he was diagnosed with Parkinson’s Disease around his 40th birthday. He decided to have a birthday party and asked that, instead of gifts, people make donations to Parkinson’s research. That led to the concert series, which started in 2000 and has featured local and national acts, including Joe Grushecky, Garland Jeffreys, Southside Johnny, LaBamba, Max Weinberg, Jesse Malin, Nicole Atkins, Lucinda Williams, and others. Bruce Springsteen has made numerous appearances at the concerts, usually unbilled, jamming with Nile and the other musicians.
Nile has participated all 14 years, because “one good stone thrown in the pond can cause ripples.” Every year has been special, though he loves it most when everyone is on stage, singing, especially with Springsteen.
One particular moment stands out, however. Springsteen was on stage at the Stone Pony and Michael J. Fox, who had been diagnosed with Parkinon’s in 1991 but had only recently disclosed his condition to the public, was waiting in the wings. He looked nervous and was having a rough day, but Fox grabbed a guitar and went out and played “Light of Day” with Springsteen. Springsteen wrote the song for the Fox movie of the same name.
“The courage it took for him to get on the stage with his body not 100 percent,” Nile said. “He walked up with a guitar, and he rocked with Bruce. He gave everything he had and I will never forget that as long as I live.”
Moments like that keep him coming back.
“When music can be meaningful and can be a real part of our lives and make us feel better -- we have this thing we share together,” he said. “It is the thing that keeps us alive. It gives us reason to move on. If we can use the music to help our fellow man that is a reason to get up in the morning.”